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May 4, 1989 Community Meeting of Residents and Police

Officers: "We Get Scared Out There Sometimes."

Residents: "Police Don't Show Us Respect."

By Carmen Lodise

This report first appeared as an article in the Isla Vista Free Press.

On Thursday, May 4th, 1989 the leadership of the Isla Vista Food Patrol sat down with about sixty residents, the press, and a couple of administrators from UCSB to talk about a widely perceived deterioration in police/community relations in Isla Vista.

At the front table was UCSB Police Chief John MacPherson and the Sheriff's Patrol Division Captain Ed Pecino, as well as the former head of the Foot Patrol Sgt. James Drinkwater, and Sgt. Fred Olguin, who had succeeded Drinkwater just a week before.

The crowd included the community's top elected leadership--several members of the Isla Vista Park Board and the UCSB Associated Students Legislative Council, including newly-elected A.S. president Mike Stowers and outgoing vice-president Ellen Thornton. Conspicuous in his absence was County Supervisor Bill Wallace, himself an I.V. resident. Wallace stated later that he was out of town.

The meeting had been arranged by UCSB Ombudsperson Geoffry Wallace, because, as he said, "Everyone at the University is concemed that I.V. has the right kind of policing."

Scott Wexler, a long-time I.V. resident, started off the dialogue. "Living in I.V., you make adjustments, and the police have to make adjustments, too. You can't just go strictly by the book, and lately there's been too much enforcement by the book." Wexler also felt that it was unnecessary for the Foot Patrol and backups from other areas to wear riot gear on weekend patrols.

Mike Lupro stated that there was a lot more serious crimes than loud parties, and why couldn't the police de-emphasize shutting down parties that are only disturbing a few people, while benefitting hundreds in some cases.

Pecino responded that he agreed there was a problem, but that "We have very little discretion. If we receive a compliant about a loud party, for instance, we have to respond."


Pecino stated that many of these problems are community problems, not police ones, and they needed to be dealt with by the community. "But, don't ask us to ignore laws--we just can't do it," he said. And as far as what they wear was concerned, he said they dress appropriately, "which unfortunately, often means we dress expecting violence."

Several persons questioned the general attitude of Foot Patrol and back-up officers toward residents, especially students. "There is a definite need for dialogue between the community and police," said Mike Stowers. "It's gotten to be a moral question."

"There are too many times when.there is a basic lack of respect on the part of officers toward I.V. residents, especially students," said Dan Zumwinlde, who based his opinion on his four years of experience in student government, as an R.A. in the dorm, and as a studen tmanager. "Too often the police are a blunt instrument of authority. There is a basic lack of willingness to deal with students on an equal basis. And this just repeats the cycle even more."

Marc Villa, out-going Leg. Council representative, said, "In my four years of student life here, I've found that most police interaction (towards students) is negative. There needs to be more of a dialogue."

Scott Abbott, assistant administrator at the Park District, noted that, "I've noticed in just the last few weeks that there has been a basic change of attitude on the park of police. With my job I've had a lot of interaction with the Foot Patrol, and it has always been very friendly, on a first name basis. But recently, officers are giving very short, defensive answers to my questions. It's definitely different."

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